Comments on: Pawlenty: Conservatives have opportunity to rally

By: JohnNone

JohnNone — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:25:54 +0000

I see. Thanks for the insight. I could, of course, rehearse all of the failed projections of other administrations, but that would be pointless, if fun. However, it appears that the immediately previous administration so purposely obfuscated the data, particularly those data reported publicly, that accurate projections were impossible.

Actually, George H. W. Bush was correct years ago when he talked about "vodoo economics." Sorting out all of the mistakes of several decades takes time.

What DOES make sense is this: 1. Previous economic policy was a complete disaster, and led to collapse. 2. Application of the theories and methods that CAUSED the problem will not solve it–as history has demonstrated. 3. Application of a different approach has at least a chance of addressing the issues; even Mr. Greenspan admits that. 4. Taking action, according to a cogent plan (as is happening) is better than wallowing in despair and wringing one's hands–which is the Dubya approach.

By: shotfeel

shotfeel — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:17:49 +0000

It proves that Obama's team couldn't predict their way out of a wet paper bag. Their projections have been completely off the mark, and continue to be off the mark. They've demonstrated an inability to understand the economy, but insist they know how to fix it. Does that make sense? It looks like they're just shooting in the dark, hoping eventually the economy will recover, and they can take the credit. In the mean time, they're doing more harm than good.

By: JohnNone

JohnNone — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:07:44 +0000

And this is supposed to prove…what?

What it seems to show is that the Wingnut Depression is actually much worse than anyone thought it was a year ago, and that it will likely take longer to recover than anyone predicted.

It would be interesting to know just how much higher unemployment figures would be if there were NO government attempts to address the problem.

Mr. Bush's answer was to GIVE (rather than lend) money to banks. That sure didn't work. And we're not far enough into Mr. Obama's program of loans and directed grants to know whether it will work or not.

I know it's frustrating, but only time will tell.

By: shotfeel

shotfeel — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:26:09 +0000

The unemployment tumble certainly started under Bush, but Obama has done nothing but make it worse. According to Obama's own projections, unemployment is now much higher than if he had done nothing. He said without his stimulus, unemployment would hit 9%, but with his stimulus it would be kept to 8%. For the sad numbers, take a look at the linked graph
http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/...

Note the graph is the White House's projections with the actual numbers plotted.

By: shotfeel

shotfeel — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:17:27 +0000

For anyone interested in facts, the bridge collapsed due to a design flaw, not lack of maintenance. But then we wouldn't want facts to get in the way of a good rant…

By: Ann_Onamouse

Ann_Onamouse — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:38:42 +0000

I think we've already seen what the "conservitives" think is a "better way". More of the same?
No thanks, I know for me, I've seen enough.

By: 38lasalle

38lasalle — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:32:31 +0000

A politician would lie to advance his political ambitions? And people would be guileless enough to believe him? Not in America.

By: 38lasalle

38lasalle — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:30:11 +0000

71 percent of nothing is still nothing.

By: ctiger

ctiger — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:49:35 +0000

Pawlenty conveniently forgets who brought the joblessness on in the first place. He also forgets that without health care reform, this nation will be bankrupt in ten years.
Or could he be deliberately lying?.

By: OwenHarper

OwenHarper — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:37:17 +0000

"A USA Today/Gallup poll found 71 percent of Republicans would seriously consider voting for Mike Huckabee, compared to 65 percent who say they would seriously consider Mitt Romney or 65 percent for Sarah Palin. Another 60 percent said they would seriously consider voting for Newt Gingrich."

All I can say is, wow.

By: cc1091

cc1091 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:13:31 +0000

Pawlenty. The Governor whose tax cuts allowed se xual predators loose in Minnesota. The same governor who vetoed spending on highway maintenance that allowed a bridge to collapse.

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